I’d been a fan of MTJ (Maths Time Joy) for years now so I jumped at the opportunity to collaborate with him. I had this idea of making something moody with a ‘drive alone at night’ vibe for a while, with the hook that you hear at the beginning of the song coming to me in a dream. Daniel Wilson was key in the intent behind the lyrics too, not trying to be too clever in what I was saying. Being able to take this to Blake Straus with all the references I had and turn it into something more gritty and “mean” in its production was exactly what it needed for the message to hit home.